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Trap or point of reference?

 
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MessagePosté le: Ven 28 Aoû - 13:30 (2015)    Sujet du message: Trap or point of reference? Répondre en citant

Game trap or point of reference?

In the Eastern Sahara I often noticed short stone lines crossing caravan pistes or small paths :
built for hunting or marking etappes/stages?

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On top of the Gilf Kebir Plateau a Barbary Sheep traversing a short stone line through a gap



Some of these short stone lines crossed paths on a wide plain or a flat plateau without any landmarks



In the Gilf Kebir region a few short stone lines included severely eroded trapping stones



Sometimes there were also stone circles or big heaps of stones added





Libya Messak – Uweinat - Idrisi







Sudan Rahib Wadi Howar - Selima









Chad Tibesti – Eghei





Chad Ennedi











Theodore Monod / Roberta Simonis reported some interesting petroglyphs in Azrenga.
(Sahara – Arte Rupestre nel Ciad, Pyramids, page 85)
They look like game traps and catching nets - in the Mourdi Depression there are many short stone lines

Chad Mourdi Depression










Chad Erdi Ma - Erdi Dji - Erdi Fochini









On the satellite maps are hundreds of these short stone lines to see in the Eastern Sahara:
What do you think about their purpose?

Bye - Ursula


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MessagePosté le: Jeu 10 Sep - 08:51 (2015)    Sujet du message: Trap or point of reference? Répondre en citant

Have a look at Sahara Journal N22 (exactly the same stone lines) and also Sahara Jal N21 and N15 and references. Use of stone lines as game traps is attested in ethnographic studies. The relevant literature is huge.

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MessagePosté le: Jeu 10 Sep - 12:32 (2015)    Sujet du message: Stone lines as game traps Répondre en citant

Okay The important number and the wide diffusion of these structures points to a utilitarian rather than to a monumental purpose.The lattest, being or cultual or other kinds of cultuRal oriented cerimonies would need a strong and still lacking evidence before being assessed (with its remarkable uniformity) in an immense area.
The stone lines work fairly well as fixing point of nets. Those artifacts, the true wealth of a human group could be taken away according to the needs or the displacements of the hunters, leaving the stone lines as a landmark.
The landmark is in my opinion a possible/likely opportunity. Why not to mark a human path with a passage through such a visible structure.
The evidence of animal footprints on our days in my opinion strengthens the good emplacement of those parts game traps. The gates eventually being left free acting as the site where the hunt or the seizure took place with other systems.
The stone lines might as well have worked as permanent reference for fences realized with thorned fences, to address, to push the game to the beforementioned gates the emplacement of those trapping devices was very well chosen: it worked in the past and also nowadays they could be used..
A priori the cultual purpose cannot be excluded but evidences are, as far as I am aware, lacking. In case that such evidences should be found, the question would be: what is the reason for the whatsoever orientation, extension, pebbles dimentions, kind of ground etc. All these occurrences are much more easy to explan if considering the case of a game trap rather than that of a monument.
But as Alessandro poined out with elegant synthesis all these discussion -and a good number of others- are known. A completely different matter would be on the table should a monumental purpose be proved.
Let me be honest and play as a "provocatore": the very long appendixes of certain tumuli are a cultural heritage of those kind of game traps?  Let us all first accept the purpose indicated by the literature, than....


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MessagePosté le: Ven 11 Sep - 10:04 (2015)    Sujet du message: Trap or point of reference? Répondre en citant

“The stone lines work fairly well as fixing point of nets. Those artifacts, the true wealth
of a human group could be taken away according to the needs or the displacements of
the hunters, leaving the stone lines as a landmark „

On the edge of the Gilf Kebir plateau, over a steep cliff there was this short line of stones.
Could this be one of these fixing points you mention?

























The ground was covered with flakes and some aterian tools, waddan circles and even a Maerua crassifolia
on top of the Gilf Kebir plateau !

Thank you for your interesting post 


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MessagePosté le: Sam 12 Sep - 07:16 (2015)    Sujet du message: Trap or point of reference? Répondre en citant

The most amazing thing about stone-lines is that they work with many different species of gregarious animals (also bisons in North America); when they find a stone lines, even very discontinuous, they start to follow it and by this way they are driven to the place where they are ambushed, with very little effort. In the Middle East "desert kites", stone lines drive the game toward pits or fenced enclosures. Stone lines do NOT need nets or any kind of sovrastructure to work. They simply exploit the animals faulty perception of obstacles. Kilf Kebir cliffs could have worked exactly as the Bison chutes.

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